Two Identical Murders, 157 Years Apart

In 1817, a 20-year-old woman named Mary Ashford was found dead after a dance in Erdington, England. The suspect — a man named Thornton — was acquitted. Exactly 157 years later to the day, another 20-year-old woman was found dead after a dance in the same spot. The suspect? A man named Thornton. He was acquitted too. Both murders remain unsolved.

by rbtholeJun 29, 2026
  1. The Erdington Murders: Two Eerily Similar Slayings — 157 Years Apart

    The definitive overview of every uncanny parallel: same age, same birthday, same date of death, same location, same suspect surname, same verdict. The list of coincidences is long enough to make a statistician uncomfortable.

  2. The Erdington Murders — Mystery Explained

    A detailed video breakdown of both cases, walking through the timeline of each murder night and examining whether the parallels are genuine coincidence or something more sinister.

  3. Ashford v Thornton: The Last Trial by Combat in English History

    When Mary Ashford's brother demanded a retrial in 1818, Abraham Thornton invoked an ancient medieval right: trial by combat. He threw down a leather gauntlet in court. The brother, physically smaller, withdrew. Parliament was so embarrassed it abolished the practice entirely.

  4. The Erdington Murders — Full Case Breakdown

    A thorough examination of how two women — Mary Ashford in 1817 and Barbara Forrest in 1974 — met nearly identical fates in the same corner of Birmingham, both after spending their last evening dancing.

  5. Both Women Had Premonitions of Their Own Deaths

    Mary Ashford told a friend's mother she had 'bad feelings about the week to come.' Barbara Forrest told a coworker 'this is going to be my unlucky month.' Both predictions came true within days. This deep dive examines every known detail of both cases.

  6. Unsolved Mysteries Wiki: Ashford & Forrest

    The community-maintained case file compiling every known fact, witness statement, and theory about both murders. Both cases remain officially open and unsolved to this day.

  7. 18 Disturbing True Crime Coincidences in Real Life

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